Paladin(for lack of a better name)

[Impossible]

Type: Warmonger

Description: A fighter who enjoys the conflict of battle, someone who loves combat simply for the thrill of it. A person who loves to battle for as long as possible, ending fights only when their opponents are too tired to continue. These are the people who join wars just to feel their blood rush, watching as they prove that they're better than the rest, with the most extreme going as far as to start them. They don't necessarily need to be the best at what they do, but they'll keep on fighting, no matter the situation. These people know exactly how they want to die; with a grin on their face, and a weapon in their hand.

Advantages:

Rank 1: Strength and Healing Expertise increased by 50%, 1 free point in Damage Recovery.

Rank 2: Strength and Healing Expertise increased by 75%, 2 free points in Damage Recovery.

Rank 3: Strength and Healing Expertise double, 3 free points in Damage Recovery.

Rank 4: Strength and Healing Expertise increased by 150%, 4 free points in Damage Recovery.

Release is not forced to be healing based, despite the points in healing.

Disadvantages: All ranks: These people are more than slightly crazed. They enjoy battle too much, and tend to lose focus on the finer details. They see the fight, but lose focus of their opponent, so to speak. They are unable to take any points in illusion resist or calm mind. They don't care who they fight, and are self centered in how they heal. Their intense strength, and their self-focus in battle and healing leave them unable to heal anyone aside from themselves, knowing their bodies too well. All sensory stats are reduced by 50%.

Race Restrictions: All except mod Soul, Beast clan, Arrancar, Failures, and Hell races

[Zeich Yajuu]

I'm gonna have to be that guy and say this isn't really what a type is. A type is a mindset or predisposition shaped by life experiences, not a choice of combat tactics. For example, Spirited is an energetic, outgoing individual, and that extroversion shows itself in increased spiritual output. Likewise, a Soldier mindset is straightforward and to the point, thus a single focus and weakness.

To me, this feels like a job or build, not a type.

[Connor Greaves]

Is it purely the name and description that's holding it back, or are there issues with the stats, because I'm not against changing the things, I just can't think of something better, unless you think 'Combat Medic' could pass as the name.

[Zeich Yajuu]

I haven't even reviewed the stats yet, tbh. The problem lies in the rationale behind the type. Most people do Types backwards; they go for a stat build and then try and match a personality to it. It should be the other way around; what sort of personality do you want to make into a Type and, based on that personality's features, what gains/losses would it get in general, looking at it from a nonstat view?

Example, Spirited again. These guys give their all and charge in, but due to being so direct or gungho about it, tend to be less aware of their surroundings. That lack of awareness is what translates into the sensory loss that they have.

[Connor Greaves]

Okay, but why should I build my character around the personality of a set type, instead of making a character how I want? You say spirited in energetic and rushes into things. Why do I have to make my character fit that, instead of just a calm and focused character with those stats? Is there any issue with having builds that don't restrict personality in fights?

[Garret]

Let me try and help you out with this Soul.

When I made Struggler type for Garret what I was thinking in my mind wasn't "I want points in these stats" it was "I want this type to help with his story."

Types are more than just stat buffs, they're playstyle and story affectors. Fighters are fighting loving people who've given up Kido and Energy Generate to have stronger releases, and that shows in their characters.

Spirited types are generally more extroverted people.

Strugglers were made to give people the option to play cursed characters and on hard mode.

Support types are people who want to be more useful in battle than a Medic.

Types affect more than just your stats. They can shape and build a character. They do play a role in a characters personality. Spirited was changed from Clown because people had a problem with how Enma was personality wise.

You're wanting to make Paladin/Tank because you want these certain stats. You're not making it to play a story or character. You're making it because you want those specific stats. Again, look at why Struggler was passed and why I made it.

[Impossible]

So you changed the type to fit the character, instead of changing the character to fit the type. Just like it should be. People shouldn't be bound to types, types should be made to fit characters, something you did, and something Bo did. Types should ideally only be stats, with a select few exceptions. If a type does something to stand out, like Struggler or Fractured, then it should stay. Things like Brave, 'Spirited', or Strategist, should be replaced with something broader. I suggested something like that, and it was shot down without addressing anything I said.

[Amare Mori]

As an aside though, this DOES actually look like a perfectly reasonable type with regards to the actual stats.

[Impossible]

Thank you.

[Impossible]

Okay, I changed the type to 'Battle Maniac', someone who enjoys fighting for the sake of fighting, almost like an adrenalin junkie in a sense.

[Impossible]

Thought of a better name.

[Zeich Yajuu]

The Type aspect of it is a little better, but quite frankly I don't see how this offers anything that another Type doesn't besides the damage recovery and circumventing the high Healing Expertise drawback to gain high physical defense and the ability to instantly fix your bones. It feels more like a loophole than a Type, aimed to bypass one rule to gain a very specific and niche build. While the drawbacks aren't the worst, those sheer defensive abilities allows the user to tank most attacks as early as Rank 2, so the sensory cuts are weakened in potency accordingly.

Not only that, but the hard numbers on this are insanely high. We're looking at a x1.75/x2.25/x2.75/x3.5 boost, 700/700 | 900/900 | 1100/1100 | 1400/1400, with a static 50% cut to two sensory stats (Which I can guarantee will be a cut to a 0 ES and probably senses to maintain a high Instinct, so really only one cut). Let's look at comparative types:

Brave: x1.5/x2/x2.5/x3 boost to ONE stat, and a x1.25/x1.5/x1.75/x2 on another, or 600/500 | 800/600 | 1000/700 | 1200/800. We have two cuts to spiritual stats, both by 50%, reducing the amount of Reiatsu a person has and their ability to counter spiritual effects.

Spirited: x1.25/x1.5/x2/x2.5 to both spirituals, or 500/500 | 600/600 | 800/800 | 1000/1000. We also see a 25%/35%/50%/50% cut to senses and instinct (I'm not even including ES because of the people who will just cut a 0 ES). So they have a generally greater stat loss in both Instinct and Senses, and much lower boosts.

Prodigy V1: x1.5/x2/x3/x4.5 to one physical and either Senses or Instinct, so 600/600 | 800/800 | 1200/1200 | 1800/1800. In exchange, however, we have an automatic 25-100 SP sink, two 66% cuts to Instinct and Healing Expertise, and a 66% cut to one spiritual stat. This is the most comparative to you type, but has much harsher drawbacks. Prodigy V2 is much the same but with a slightly lower cap of x3.5 at rank 4, so it's 1400/1400 like yours.

Genius: X/X/x2.5/x3 to both physicals or both spirituals, x1.5/x3 to either Senses or HE, so X | X | 1000/1000/600 | 1200/1200/1200. 33% cut to one non-boosted physical or spiritual, -33% cut to whichever between HE and Senses wasn't boosted, and battle exhaustion. Let's not forget 25-100 SP lost automatically due to requiring points being put into the cut stat.

Support: x1.5/x2/x2/x2 to any two stats, and x1/x1/x1.25/1.5x to another, so 600/600/400 | 800/800/400 | 800/800/500 | 800/800/600. Drawbacks include one physical or spiritual stat cut by 50%, as well as a 50% cut to Senses or Instinct (and in most cases, this will be Senses, given the high bias towards Instinct.) Release is strictly shunted into a specific type, no longer able to have more than one directly offensive ability.


So let's look at the numbers, Rank 1-4.

700/700 | 900/900 | 1100/1100 | 1400/1400 (Warmonger)
600/500 | 800/600 | 1000/700 | 1200/800 (Brave)
500/500 | 600/600 | 800/800 | 1000/1000 (Spirited)
600/600 | 800/800 | 1200/1200 | 1800/1800 (Prodigy V1)
600/600 | 800/800 | 1200/1200 | 1400/1400 (Prodigy V2)
X | X | 1000/1000/1000 | 1200/1200/1200 (Genius)
600/600/400 | 800/800/400 | 800/800/500 | 800/800/600 (Support)

Already, we see some serious imbalances. At Ranks 1 and 2, this new Type absolutely demolishes anything else in terms of final caps. Now, while one of them is HE, let's note that at 400, you could restore major wounds over a series of posts. At 700, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say you could do it over a single post, especially since at 800 you can completely fix broken bones and relocations with no effort. All of this costs no Reiatsu, requires no special techniques or Releases. That's part of what makes this enormous starting stat so problematic. It also has a little over a 15% advantage in primary offensive stat over the other focused types. Your secondary has a similar lead. It takes until Rank 3 for any other Type to catch up, and the only ones that do are both Prodigies, who suffer a massive 66% Instinct cut, a loss of SP, and a 66% cut to either a physical or a spiritual compared to your -50% Senses/ES (with no forced SP put into anything, either, so that ES is likely to be a cut 0). At rank 4, only Prodigies stay caught up. Brave tapers out a bit short, Genius as well (though it has two major stats enhanced on either side, so it bounces back to some extent until you consider the drawbacks.

So yeah, the numbers are definitely too high. Will throw you some numbers once I get past the next part of this.

The other thing to do is ask: what does this Type do that can't be covered by another? Support and Genius can both cover the stat choices in exchange for other drawbacks.

Some examples, aimed at a 1800 point build:

Warmonger (Rank 1/2/3/4) > +Strength/HE Primary. Senses and ES cut.
Strength - 400 (700)(900)(1100)(1400)
Speed - 300
Spiritual Pressure - 200
Reiatsu Strength - 100
Instinct - 200
Senses - 200 (100)(100)(100)(100)
ES - 0 (0)(0)(0)(0)
HE - 400 (700)(900)(1100)(1400)

Physical Genius (Rank 3/4) > +Strength/Speed/HE Primary. RS and ES cut.
Strength - 400 (1000)(1200)
Speed - 200 (500)(600)
Spiritual Pressure - 250
Reiatsu Strength - 100 (33)(33)
Instinct - 200
Senses - 150
ES - 100 (66)(66)
HE - 400 (1000)(1200)

While we can only compare them at Rank 3/4 because of Genius's drawback, Genius has only a marginally lower OS while still being an arm and a leg above most other Types, much higher speed and spiritual pressure, a lower Reiatsu Strength - which neither of them really needs, in this build example - same Instincts, better Senses, better ES, and only marginally lower HE when the highest bonus is only at 1200 anyway. Genius is generally the superior Type here, with the exception being Warmonger's defensive capabilities and loophole ability to avoid a healing-focused Release. Genius may lose out on the major stats, but a high-point build for Warmonger leaves you with excess, really. Even if you reduced HE values down to put SP elsewhere, you won't gain much advantage and may actually dip below Genius, which is at the perfect threshold of maximum HE capability.

Let's try Support instead. We'll see lower numbers but the same general concept.

Warmonger (Rank 1/2/3/4) > +Strength/HE Primary. Senses and ES cut.
Strength - 400 (700)(900)(1100)(1400)
Speed - 300
Spiritual Pressure - 200
Reiatsu Strength - 100
Instinct - 200
Senses - 200 (100)(100)(100)(100)
ES - 0 (0)(0)(0)(0)
HE - 400 (700)(900)(1100)(1400)

Support (Rank 1/2/3/4) > +Strength/HE Primary, +Instinct Secondary. Reiatsu Strength and Senses cut.
Strength - 400 (600)(800)(800)(800)
Speed - 300
Spiritual Pressure - 200
Reiatsu Strength - 100 (50)(50)(50)(50)
Instinct - 200 (200)(200)(250)(300)
Senses - 200 (100)(100)(100)(100)
ES - 0
HE - 400 (600)(800)(800)(800)

Now, we see a stricter drop in values (800 v. 1400), but for HE, the losses are the ability to cure another's sanity and minor organ/facial healing, the latter of which could be accomplished with a technique. The Strength loss does hurt a bit, I'll admit, and the only real gain that this build has is a much higher Instinct to make up for the lack of tankiness, but while it does force reliance on a healing/support Release, it also essentially can do most of what Warmonger can without bypassing our Healing Release rule, which only grants exceptions to races with High-Speed Regeneration.



In the end of all of these comparisons, it boils down to one question: once the numbers are set into proper balance, what does this Type accomplish that others cannot? And when I say balanced numbers, I'm thinking x1.5/x2/x2.5/x3 as the final Strength and HE bonuses (600/800/1000/1200) given the drawbacks. Right now, what I'm seeing is that this gives free Damage Recovery and bypasses the Healing Release rule while otherwise being fairly baseline. So in the end, I'm probably going to have to say no to this being a Type because of the fact that it does nothing unique that isn't already directly covered by our rules.

My justification for this is Zou's own ruling on Types which, while unwritten, many people have experienced when trying to get a Type passed and rejected. Each new Type must generally bring something new to the table. It must be something that stands out and makes it special, gives it its own niche in the game. Look at types like Strategist; no one uses it because of the lack of Offensive stat, leaving it horribly weak in many situations. Cunning suffers from the same issue because of a very low offensive stat, requiring a really skilled player to make use of it well, though the ranks in Analysis helps it somewhat. Skilled, while unique, ends up suffering because it has zero stat bonuses in a stat-based game, and cuts techniques in both Release and non-Release. Each of these are unique, but they don't have a niche in a game that focuses on offense in most cases. The uniqueness of Cunning and Skilled scored them a spot at the table... but ones that ultimately aren't used. And unfortunately, that's what I see for this Type.

So I'm going to rule this as rejected for all the reasons I have stated above. Despite that, however, you are welcome to comment on this, and other staff members are more than welcome to discuss either side of the conversation. This is merely my view and my opinion, not set in stone.

[Impossible]

Mostly with genius you have to hit rank 3 in order to even get it, something that isn't easy to do. Support type, you can't have an offensive release if you're using it, leaving you with far less options to make your character with. Having Warmonger would give us a type where you can make a combat oriented character with healing above 300 that isn't an Arrancar. You know that though, but that's all I really have. I reduced the numbers down, and made it so all sensory stats reduced, even if I don't really think 400 instinct is that high.

Warmonger: One of the few types that would boost HE, non-healing focused release, only boosts one combat stat.

Genius: Need rank 3, boosts two combat stats, plus HE or ES

Support: Boosts any two stats plus a third at rank 3, but character shouldn't be combat themed