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Post by Kyomei Kuchiki on Mar 7, 2017 16:19:05 GMT -5
You would fire two separate projectiles. Like a Byakurai followed by a shakkaho. But with Kidou fusion you could fire an electric grenade by fusing those two.
1x Class 1 Spiritual Steel Staff 1x Class 1 Spiritual Steel Dagger/Scabbard
So...... I hate to bring this up, but if kido is made to require a skill to use wouldn't it be balanced to require a skill for all reiatsu based abilities like cero and EG? The later makes more sense given that humans aren't naturally spiritual beings. However doing so means that it takes away from more freedom in skill making kido a required skill for any shingami, rogue or failure that wishes to use kido, which as far as I know isn't something that the mods want to do. By doing this it will force a meta to evolve in which shingami will either be forced to take kido at the expense of other skills or be forced to lose out on one of the biggest advantages they have. While at the character creation stage in which you choose what sort of fighter you're making you can opt out of being a kido user the site shouldn't force you to have to make that choice because of skills.
As far as the cero is an innate hollow and arrancar ability you still have to learn it and there still is a cero skill that you can take for some fun combinations. Skills were introduced in order to balance out characters who were a master at every single sort of fighting style and weapon, which was a bit common back in the days when we use to have a rather raunchy seventh espada. While not all skills are made to be for combat and some are purely made for character development and plot no skill is actually required for any given race. There is no rule saying that a fullbringer needs strength of will, but it's highly suggested and beneficial. A chain user doesn't need to have chains as a skill, however it helps them use it.
I for one would love to see Failures be required to take a skill in a magic system before they can learn techniques for them.
How about we nerf bounts ? I think everyone is aboard that train
There aren't even enough Bount to warrant an immediate nerf to that race. Plus, what I believe people want a nerf in hasn't even been abused by either of the TWO Bount that currently exist. The only active Bount that existed on this forum for 5 years before a second was created didn't even use the main racial advantage that's been getting flack. No Bount has yet to abuse their racial advantage and gang up on anyone in any PvP battle. So that statement is you purely being facetious.
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Post by Tsajara Dread on Mar 8, 2017 11:38:12 GMT -5
So they don't? That is....incredibly strange. I have been making a number of martial techniques for other races. However in EVERY single case, It was demanded during grading that they have reiatsu costs, and in some cases costs above par for the class. And these techniques were inferior to many hakuda techniques. Thus my confusion
Post by Amagai Kuchiki on Mar 8, 2017 12:09:38 GMT -5
I feel like we'll all be better off if we just accept that Shinigami get to be better than everyone else /sarcasm
In all seriousness, martial techniques for races with generally infinite reiatsu cost reiatsu to try and curb their spending (Quincies), martial techniques for HWDs usually utilize Energy Generate or other similar things, so they need to cost reiatsu. As long as the technique is purely physical in practice, and belongs to a non Quincy race, it's unlikely to be forced to have a reiatsu cost. That's because these martial techniques are frequently things people could already do via just posting, usually with a slight buff associated with them.
Bounts obviously don't need a nerf, I assume that was a joke, and intend to move on without really giving it much thought.
I think bogging down the system with a bunch new skills that all cool abilities are locked behind is a bad idea.
Failures don't need a nerf, probably? That's one I'm less sure about though, I'll admit.
As i see it, Hakuda requires a skill for the simple reason that it FUNCTIONS as a skill.
With hakuda you benefit just from taking the skill. It functions as a martial art, with its own effective benefits.
The techniques just serve to make hakuda MORE effective. You dont need to learn the techs because they are just PARTs of the martial art. you dont learn just one stance or one punch, you learn the principles and methods of the martial art and build upon your techniques from that.
Kido has no skill requirement because kido IS the techs.
Hakuda is taught as a martial art as a whole. Kido is trained as each individual spell and then categorized together.
Where hakuda has benefits with or without techniques. a kido user has nothing but those techniques.
The kido skill is only useful when one HAS kido already.
Hakuda requires skills because you dont just know a handful of master level techniques without knowing the principles and basics of the martial art itself.
Kido doesnt because each spell is its own functioning method, You could learn just Sho, or just byakurai and never know anything else. a kuchiki could learn their hana and never take a regular kido.
a hakuda specialist by basis of speed strength and skills functions entirely on their own.
A kido specialist. with RS and SpPr, has nothing at all without techs.
TL:DR
Hakuda costs skills because melee dude have benefits even without techs
Kido doesnt because reiatsu dudes dont have anything without techs.
All of this is disregarding release and assuming a purely mechanical standpoint. skills and individual character results may vary as may users with a potent release.
How about we nerf bounts ? I think everyone is aboard that train
There aren't even enough Bount to warrant an immediate nerf to that race. Plus, what I believe people want a nerf in hasn't even been abused by either of the TWO Bount that currently exist. The only active Bount that existed on this forum for 5 years before a second was created didn't even use the main racial advantage that's been getting flack. No Bount has yet to abuse their racial advantage and gang up on anyone in any PvP battle. So that statement is you purely being facetious.
That moment when Jazz doesn't get that you're making a joke at ray and his new bount XD.
Getting back on topic, Kido is fine the way it is to lock it behind a skill really makes no sense given that no other race has the same lock for skills, when canonically shingami learn kido in a school, while other races aren't taught to use their reiatsu based skills.