Quincy Leveling?

[Jyuria "Elisa" Arroj]

So I've heard a couple mixed answers about why the heck Quincy have such high CTP requirements for leveling, and all of the ones I HAVE heard use reasons that no longer apply. I would like to formally request that the CTP requirements for Quincy be re-evaluated at the Mod Team's earliest convenience.

[Matthew Hazeman]

Out of curiosity, what are the reasons you've heard?

[Chiku Unoji]

Initially it was that because they skipped class 8 that they had a higher leveling path to accommodate. The second reason I heard was that they used to get class 0 really easily, or at least a lot easier than any other race. Both of which are no longer the case.

[Johnwaluigi]

One of the current reasons, I feel, is that Quincy gain an awful lot on each Class-Up - more than any other race, I'm tempted to say. Not only do they gain access to a new property for their Bow at every level, they also usually get other add-ons, such as: the Short Bow, Arrow Guidance/Detonation, and Quincy Cross. All these bonuses are at least a contributing factor as to why they're so difficult to Class-Up. Though, I will admit, it also partially an artefact of their old levelling system.

[Chiku Unoji]

There are plenty of races that gain a lot of things every level up. Beast Clan (Who have a higher CTP but for a different reason), Mod Souls, Nakkabakki, Akki, Bount.

And SPEAKING of getting a "lot" per class, they get less than other races. Compared to other races they get slightly LESS SP from class at every class. a THOUSAND of their Sp is locked into class 1-0 (I think the free quincy is slightly less, but not AS less since they get training tier).

[Matthew Hazeman]

I'd have to side with John with this one. You may not be getting a lot of SP per class up, but you're getting specialized powers almost every class. Add in the sheer gain you get from those last two classes, and I think the slightly harder path is warranted. Actually, if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and do a quick comparison between the Big 3 races and what they gain at each Class.

Shinigami

Class 8 - Free step tech, Zanpakuto (barring type)
Class 7 - Nothing
Class 6 - 20 SP
Class 5 - 50 SP
Class 4 - 50 SP, Shikai
Class 3 - 100 SP, Potential Bankai qualification
Class 2 - 200 SP, 400 reiatsu Bankai
Class 1 - 200 SP, 300 reiatsu Bankai, 150 reiatsu Shikai
Class 0 - 100 reiatsu Shikai, Shikai duration upped to 15 posts, 200 reiatsu Bankai, Bankai duration upped to 12 posts

Arrancar

Class 8 - Zanpakuto
Class 7 - Nothing
Class 6 - 20 SP, 2 post Ress
Class 5 - 50 SP, 4 post Ress
Class 4 - 50 SP, 6 post Ress
Class 3 - 100 SP, 8 post Ress
Class 2 - 200 SP, 12 post Ress
Class 1 - 16 post Ress, Potential Segunda Etapa Qualification
Class 0 - Nothing

Quincy

Class 8 - Nothing
Class 7 - Bow
Class 6 - Bow Release, Arrow Guiding/Explosions
Class 5 - 20 SP, Bow Property, Arrow Splitting
Class 4 - 50 SP, Bow Property, 2 properties at once, Quincy Cross
Class 3 - 50 SP, Bow Proeprty, Quincy Cross Upgrade
Class 2 - 100 SP, Bow Property, 3 Properties at Once, Mask Fragment/Quincy Cross Upgrade
Class 1 - 500 SP, Bow Property, Free Quincy Cross Upgrade
Class 0 - 500 SP (Vreich)/200 SP (Free), Zero Property, Bow Finale and Blut (Free), Quincy Cross Upgrade (Vreich)

... Yeah. I don't think it's completely unwarranted to make Quincy work a bit harder for their class ups, after looking at everything side-by-side.

[Lagos Oscuras]

In defense, Quincy don't have very many good techniques hence why they sort of need the sort of buffs in what diversifies their fighting styles. Shinigami upon every class up has access to more powerful and diverse Kido and Arrancar techniques while few are generally pretty strong. Quincy typically unless their bow release is melee based always has to fight ranged and that's particularly extremely easy to dodge with any step technique. It's a difficult game to play unless you either have undodgeable arrows like Jyuria or incredibly fast arrows. I despite having a Quincy don't really care too much about the SP limits. I find Vandenreich Quincy do have a few ridiculous buffs as compared to free Quincy but that's the way it was supposed to be. Anyways. I'm done on my end.

[Hidromielleón Ulfhirthir]

Quincy get a lot more versatility in their racial abilities than the others, but Shinigami have a massive library of racial techniques, and Arracncar have one of the better releases in terms of sheer force. Don't forget that Quincy reiatsu recovery requires they keep constant focus on it, and takes penalties if they're using any of their highly flexible release at all, so if they're going all out, they're probably not getting that much reiatsu back, especially when you take into account that they pay for basic attacks (arrows), while other races can swing their unreleased weapons around for free.

That said, I don't mind an extra cost for a little more flexibility.