Branching Out

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Hello Bleach Online World. It has recently come my attention that Xcution has become a rather secret Fullbringer club recently. I'm gonna go ahead and push this suggestion forward. Once upon a time Quincy were allowed into Xcution, yes this is true it was in the Xcution section of our rules. Now, this organization only accepts Humans into its rankings. Quincy ARE Humans. In Canon, the Quincy were nothing more than a tribe / clan of spiritually powered Humans, same as the Fullbringers. I don't see why we don't allow a new branch for Quincy, being allowed back into Xcution like they were once before. At the moment, Quincy only actually have three ranking paths available to them (Uzaki Enterprise + Ariadasu ((the two are fusing)), Mercenary and Vandenreich), compared to Fullbringers list (Xcution, UE, Aria, Sub Shini, Mercenary). So...why not?

tl;dr: Allow Quincies back into Xcution since they are Humans and Xcution is a Human only Org.

[Amagai Kuchiki]

I see no specific reason why this would be a bad idea. Until someone presents one, this idea has my support.

[Kyomei Kuchiki]

Yeah, it sounds like a pretty good idea for me. Quincy are one of the largely underused races, so this could give them more flexibility and more fun as for characters thinking of playing them. However, logistically, they would take the "Non-Vandenreich" Levelling path, yes?

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Oct 2, 2014 14:14:40 GMT -5 Kyomei Kuchiki said:

Yeah, it sounds like a pretty good idea for me. Quincy are one of the largely underused races, so this could give them more flexibility and more fun as for characters thinking of playing them. However, logistically, they would take the "Non-Vandenreich" Levelling path, yes?

Since they arn't Vandenreich (drank the kool-aid) they wouldn't be taking the Vandenreich path. Just the basic Quincy path.

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Quincies have a lot of options to them for the orgs they can join. As a Vandnereich they get plenty of boosts and techs that others don't get, I know that it gets a bad name, but I think that if people look past the stigma they have of being Nazi's it's a really great org to belong to. UE is now a real thing(or will be in the next few weeks) UE is looking to be a huge Org that could very well soon outnumber the SS. Mercenary, is open to everyone in the human world if it fits the character than they can pick that path. As it stands they have three good orgs to join.

I don't see a reason to allow quincies to join Xcution. Why would they? Fullbringers get their powers from their mother being exposed to hollow reiatsu and then giving birth to a fullbringer. Fullbringers get their power because of hollows, quincies exist to kill hollows it seems counter productive to recruit a race of humans who's main evolutionary advantage is to kill what causes fullbringers to come into existence. Now I know that on the site the fact of the mother being exposed to a hollow reiatsu isn't the only way a fullbringer can come into existence. Also what about the seven guns are we going to change it so that a quincy can become one or keep it the same as it is now? If it's the later why would someone join an org that they knowingly can't get to the highest rank no matter what they do?

Now what I could see being done is having another org created that takes in quincies who don't want to follow Der kaiser. The org could be lead by an old quincy who split off from the path that the Vandnreich take. Having done that he could of learned on how to further the power of a quincy down a different path line. Much like how Cupid did.

Anyways that's my two cents

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Totally OOC devil's advocate point:

Vandenreich needs more members. Quincy should be encouraged to join the Vandenreich, since it needs more members still. Offering Quincy ANOTHER major org to join further marginalizes the Vandenreich, which we should avoid since the Vandenreich is supposed to be a big deal.

[Amagai Kuchiki]

In regards to Faust's second point, the one about the nature of Fullbringers, I don't think most Fullbringers like Hollows. After all, a fair number of them kill them for fun. Fullbringers aren't hollowifed humans, they're humans whose parents were attacked by hollows. A Quincy and a Fullbringer shouldn't have inherent flaws. Not sure if Quincies need to be able to become 7guns, but I can straight up say that I'd love to make a Quincy Xcution member, because I don't like Vreich.

In regard to Pie's point, I do agree Vreich needs more members. However, as long as they are flavored the way they are, I don't think most people will want to make a Vreich quincy. The benefits are amazing, but being a Nazi/fanatic isn't what most people want for their characters. Vreich is still a big deal though, given you can make Class 0 characters from character app by joining Vreich. Vreich currently is beating goddamn Soul Society, which has like 10 times their number of characters, for Class 0 characters. Vreich has a ton of firepower, even if they aren't super big right now. But yeah, they could use more members. I don't think that's a reason to prohibit an expansion of Xcution though.

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Oct 2, 2014 16:50:20 GMT -5 Amagai Kuchiki said:

In regard to Pie's point, I do agree Vreich needs more members. However, as long as they are flavored the way they are, I don't think most people will want to make a Vreich quincy. The benefits are amazing, but being a Nazi/fanatic isn't what most people want for their characters. Vreich is still a big deal though, given you can make Class 0 characters from character app by joining Vreich. Vreich currently is beating goddamn Soul Society, which has like 10 times their number of characters, for Class 0 characters. Vreich has a ton of firepower, even if they aren't super big right now. But yeah, they could use more members. I don't think that's a reason to prohibit an expansion of Xcution though.

What Rudy says here is what I've wanted to say about the image of the Vandenreich. Yes there is no getting around the similarities between the Vandenreich and the Nazis, however too many people focus on that and they instantly think that the Van are Nazis. However they're not, people seem to forget the fact that the Vandenreich formed after the quincy extermination done by the shinigami. An extermination that up until recently most of us thought left only a handful of quincies. Before someone says that the Vandenreich limits a character it really doesn't. John a Vandenreich captain is having a romance with Rin, he doesn't hate the shinigami he is just loyal to Der Kaiser. Being loyal to Der Kaiser is the only thing that a Van has to have in their personality, loyalty can be different to each person. Vannan's loyalty to Der Kaiser is due to blackmail currently, after a specific thread his reason for being loyal will be the potential for the Van to give him the opportunity to bring someone back.

There is nothing stating that a Van Quincy has to be like Caesar. Each one can be drastically different and have their own reasons for being loyal.

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Oct 2, 2014 18:41:56 GMT -5 @sorrow45 said:

Oct 2, 2014 16:50:20 GMT -5 Amagai Kuchiki said:

There is nothing stating that a Van Quincy has to be like Caesar.