Post by Ludwig Verrlicht on Jun 28, 2018 22:10:36 GMT -5
So I'm going to start this saying my goal isn't to fix something but as to understand why things are as they are currently.
So lets start with Quincy's. My biggest question I've had for them is, why do quincies get to absorb reiatsu enough to go over their limit? I thought about this as I was looking over a kido for Ludwig that would allow him to seal a kido inside a person/object. However it's main "offensive" ability if your sealing a kido into anyone, especially an enemy, is that if the person cannot use the entirety of that reiatsu imbued then they explode.
And yet quincy can go, depending on how much their reiatsu total originally would be, over it enough to start having multiples. There are a few other techniques, that I will list below in a spoiler, that also have a similar if not the same drawback. So what is it about quincy that prevent them from exploding? Or harming themselves? Or at least why is there no limit for this overflow? Because I don't think it's too far out there to say normally Spiritual Pressure accounts for how much reiatsu the body can hold. Hence the damaging effects of having too much when used in other techs. Yet quincy don't suffer this drawback or any at all and that doesn't make sense to me. Because as it currently stands, to my understanding, they could just continue to absorb reiatsu to their hearts content if allowed to. And multiple times a post at later levels. I don't want to give off the impression I have a problem with their ability to absorb reiatsu at all because I understand they did that in the anime. That makes sense but the limitless overflow of reiatsu is my big question.
Alright onto the next question. This one I imagine is a far simpler question to answer. Why is Experienced not allowed on more races aside from Shinigami, Quincy, and Fullbringers? I can honestly see it working well for an Akki, Vizard, maybe even Saika's and Bount. I'll admit I AM a bit biased in asking this because I would like to use it (Though I understand it's not possible) for Anthony if he went Hollow wraith just given the personality of the inner hollow. But I'm also just curious given it's super limited to who can use it.
And on that note given I've already admitted to wanting that but realizing it's not possible. What other types would give a similar vibe as Experienced in terms of what it gives and the mindset behind it?
So lets start with Quincy's. My biggest question I've had for them is, why do quincies get to absorb reiatsu enough to go over their limit? I thought about this as I was looking over a kido for Ludwig that would allow him to seal a kido inside a person/object. However it's main "offensive" ability if your sealing a kido into anyone, especially an enemy, is that if the person cannot use the entirety of that reiatsu imbued then they explode.
{Kido example}
Technique Name: [Bakudo #55: Mutsohoyo (Painless Embrace)]
Class: [4]
Technique Type: [Kido]
Technique Element: [None]
Technique Description and Effects:
This is a sealing technique. It is used not to seal the enemy however, but to seal another Kido. This has two distinct effects. The first is that it can be used to seal a Kido inside of an object, which for the next hour can instantly activate that Kido at any time at will of the user, even if left behind somewhere. It costs the cost of this technique and the cost of the Kido in question. That is one way of using it. The second is more effective. This can seal a technique inside of an enemy or an ally. The technique in question has its reiatsu broken down by the enemy or ally, who then gains extra reiatsu to use. The full reiatsu put into the technique, except for this Bakudo, goes into the enemy. Therefore, if Hado #88 was sealed in the enemy or ally, all of that reiatsu simply converts into 600 reiatsu for the enemy to use.
The trouble comes there. If the enemy or ally is given reiatsu that causes them to go over their current cap, they must spend all excess in their next post, or their body will explode from the excess and they will die. This can be used at the start of the fight as a bomb technique on suspecting enemies.
How to use technique:
To seal a technique inside of the enemy, the user needs to have physical contact with the part of the body that they will be sealing the technique into. They then activate this technique and pay the cost for it and the technique they wish to seal within the foe. Alternatively, the same is said of an object. Seal this into an object with physical contact with the object, and then use the object as one sees fit. The object automatically releases the Kido if the user gets up to a mile away from it. The object also cannot exceed the user in size.
Technique Drawbacks:
This technique leaves behind physical remnant of techniques. This means that if one were to use a stone based Kido that made stone, while the reiatsu would go into an ally, the stones would still form and remain behind. The same is true of an object, which would become filled by stones. This makes it highly implausible to use elemental Kido on objects or allies. Things such as fire, wind, or lightning, which are only temporary elements that cannot be long lasting can still be used, and they will have no remnants, and instead will just convert directly into reiatsu.
Incantation and Effect):
The incantation causes the class of the Kido imbued to go up by one, resulting in a higher class Kido for the cost of one class lower. For example, if a class 5 Kido is imbued, the incantation causes it to be valued at class 4 instead. It uses the same cost as a class 5 Kido however, the only extra cost being that of this technique. ("A dream within a dream, a heart within a soul, a core within a nucleus which in turn is within an atom. Within all there is still more. And within thee, I place this seal!"]
Made By: [Sozen Kuchiki]
Technique Name: [Bakudo #55: Mutsohoyo (Painless Embrace)]
Class: [4]
Technique Type: [Kido]
Technique Element: [None]
Technique Description and Effects:
This is a sealing technique. It is used not to seal the enemy however, but to seal another Kido. This has two distinct effects. The first is that it can be used to seal a Kido inside of an object, which for the next hour can instantly activate that Kido at any time at will of the user, even if left behind somewhere. It costs the cost of this technique and the cost of the Kido in question. That is one way of using it. The second is more effective. This can seal a technique inside of an enemy or an ally. The technique in question has its reiatsu broken down by the enemy or ally, who then gains extra reiatsu to use. The full reiatsu put into the technique, except for this Bakudo, goes into the enemy. Therefore, if Hado #88 was sealed in the enemy or ally, all of that reiatsu simply converts into 600 reiatsu for the enemy to use.
The trouble comes there. If the enemy or ally is given reiatsu that causes them to go over their current cap, they must spend all excess in their next post, or their body will explode from the excess and they will die. This can be used at the start of the fight as a bomb technique on suspecting enemies.
How to use technique:
To seal a technique inside of the enemy, the user needs to have physical contact with the part of the body that they will be sealing the technique into. They then activate this technique and pay the cost for it and the technique they wish to seal within the foe. Alternatively, the same is said of an object. Seal this into an object with physical contact with the object, and then use the object as one sees fit. The object automatically releases the Kido if the user gets up to a mile away from it. The object also cannot exceed the user in size.
Technique Drawbacks:
This technique leaves behind physical remnant of techniques. This means that if one were to use a stone based Kido that made stone, while the reiatsu would go into an ally, the stones would still form and remain behind. The same is true of an object, which would become filled by stones. This makes it highly implausible to use elemental Kido on objects or allies. Things such as fire, wind, or lightning, which are only temporary elements that cannot be long lasting can still be used, and they will have no remnants, and instead will just convert directly into reiatsu.
Incantation and Effect):
The incantation causes the class of the Kido imbued to go up by one, resulting in a higher class Kido for the cost of one class lower. For example, if a class 5 Kido is imbued, the incantation causes it to be valued at class 4 instead. It uses the same cost as a class 5 Kido however, the only extra cost being that of this technique. ("A dream within a dream, a heart within a soul, a core within a nucleus which in turn is within an atom. Within all there is still more. And within thee, I place this seal!"]
Made By: [Sozen Kuchiki]
And yet quincy can go, depending on how much their reiatsu total originally would be, over it enough to start having multiples. There are a few other techniques, that I will list below in a spoiler, that also have a similar if not the same drawback. So what is it about quincy that prevent them from exploding? Or harming themselves? Or at least why is there no limit for this overflow? Because I don't think it's too far out there to say normally Spiritual Pressure accounts for how much reiatsu the body can hold. Hence the damaging effects of having too much when used in other techs. Yet quincy don't suffer this drawback or any at all and that doesn't make sense to me. Because as it currently stands, to my understanding, they could just continue to absorb reiatsu to their hearts content if allowed to. And multiple times a post at later levels. I don't want to give off the impression I have a problem with their ability to absorb reiatsu at all because I understand they did that in the anime. That makes sense but the limitless overflow of reiatsu is my big question.
{Other techniques with similar drawbacks}
Technique Name: Vita Sollertia: Life Drain
Class: 3
Technique Type: Vita Sollertia
Usable By: Rogues
Technique Element: None
Technique Description and Effects: It is common knowledge the difference between the Shinigami and the Rogue. A Shinigamis power comes from within their own soul. They must make bargains with their soul until the inevitable day comes that they must conquer it to achieve Bankai. The Rogue, however, does not acquire his power from the inside, rather from the outside. The Bakkoto is a parasite, feeding off the reiatsu and life of its wielder in exchange for great power.
The purpose of this technique was to change what it was the Bakkoto fed upon. The Bakkoto is a parasite, a symbiote of sorts, seeking nourishment above all else. All it cares about, all it needs, is life force and reiatsu. The art of Life Drain uses these basic motivations of the Bakkoto and turns it against his opponent. When the adversary of the Rogue comes into contact with the Bakkoto, whether it be weapon or attire, the parasite will begin to rapidly feed upon its new source. A powerful technique, for every post that the Bakkoto remains in contact with its new source of food, 500 reiatsu will be stolen from them.
This reiatsu allows for two options by the Rogue. First, the Rogue is able to take that stolen Reiatsu and give it to themselves, replenishing their own reserves with their enemies. Many races and factions have tried to create techniques designed to steal the reiatsu of an enemy, but only the Rogues are capable of this. The second option is to convert the reiatsu into what a Rogue truly needs, into what allows the Rogue to continue fighting; Life Force. The main function of this technique is not to regain reiatsu, but is to in fact regain Life Force. When used against fellow Rogues, the user of this technique can rob Life Force rather than just reiatsu, same amount and can only be given to the users Life Force pool.
How to use technique (How is it activated?): The Rogue must have his Bakkoto come into contact with the targets body. This can be done by simply having the Bakkoto touch them, impale them upon the weapon that is the Bakkoto, or any other method of getting the parasite onto the target. They must then activate the technique.
Technique Drawbacks: This technique, despite its strength, does have a few drawbacks. Firstly, on the matter of draining reiatsu. If the stolen energy surpasses the amount that the Rogue has (SpPr stat), then the Rogue must use that reiatsu within two posts or the extra amount will deal sudden Life Force damage, equal to the extra unused amount of reiatsu. For every post that this technique is used, a Rogue will take 1.5x extra Life Drain depletion for attacks, except for any damage taken by too much reiatsu absorption. This technique has the cost of a Class 3 technique as well, and can only be used if it has been Mastered.
Made By: Garret the Wanderer
Reserved? (Yes/No): No
Technique Name: Hakai Gonzui
Class: 3
Technique Type: Other
Usable By: Arrancar
Technique Element: N/A
Technique Description and Effects: This is a completely physical type of Gonzui that one might argue is far less useful in devouring the reiatsu of others. While the standard Gonzui can be done on multiple targets at once and from a distance this technique can only be done directly and through physically eating a section of an entities body. This means that unless whoever is using this technique has multiple mouths it can only be done on a single entity at a time. The unique thing about the technique is that it can be done on the user as well by eating a part of their own body. This technique allows the user to gain reiatsu depending on how large the amount they have eaten. If they eat about a hand size they gain 100, hand to elbow 250, an entire arms worth is 350 wile eating someone completely is 500.
How to use technique: The user must take a physical bite out of an individual or themselves and then eat it.
Technique Drawbacks: The major limitation of this technique is that it can only be done on one individual at a time. The technique requires a 3 post cool down until it can be done again. Also this technique doesn't allow the user to overload their reiatsu meaning they can't gain more reiatsu then they originally have. Also this technique will cause incredible exhaustion if done any more then 5 times in a single thread. If someone keeps going and uses this technique a total of 8 they will pass out regardless of anything else. Finally devouring anything more then the size of a hand takes more time. (1 full post)
Technique Name: [Rape Mode]
Class: [1]
Technique Type: [Other]
Technique Element: [None]
Technique Description and Effects:
While this is active, what appears to be blue fire burns across the Akki's skin. This can be used by any Akki that is the correct class. This allows the Akki in question, upon physical contact with an enemy or ally, to siphon reiatsu and reiatsu strength from them. Every touch siphons 50 reiatsu and 10 reiatsu strength, adding them to the user's pool. However, prolonged contact has benefits. Every consecutive second of prolonged contact yields 100 reiatsu and 25 reiatsu strength to the user's pool. This can be used to exceed the user's maximum.
How to use technique:
Activate, which is costless, and then use by physical contact. This technique remains active for 7 posts before it deactivates. If excess reiatsu is not used up before then, the user dies.
Technique Drawbacks
Aside from the above drawback, this technique fills the user's soul with constant pain and self loathing. It is a technique whose activation tortures the user. This also causes reiatsu use to hurt as badly as any punishment from Hell would after a full day's accumulation, and causes cellular de-construction during its activation period, causing cells to begin to de-construct and die.
Made By: [Admin]
Technique Name: Vita Sollertia: Life Drain
Class: 3
Technique Type: Vita Sollertia
Usable By: Rogues
Technique Element: None
Technique Description and Effects: It is common knowledge the difference between the Shinigami and the Rogue. A Shinigamis power comes from within their own soul. They must make bargains with their soul until the inevitable day comes that they must conquer it to achieve Bankai. The Rogue, however, does not acquire his power from the inside, rather from the outside. The Bakkoto is a parasite, feeding off the reiatsu and life of its wielder in exchange for great power.
The purpose of this technique was to change what it was the Bakkoto fed upon. The Bakkoto is a parasite, a symbiote of sorts, seeking nourishment above all else. All it cares about, all it needs, is life force and reiatsu. The art of Life Drain uses these basic motivations of the Bakkoto and turns it against his opponent. When the adversary of the Rogue comes into contact with the Bakkoto, whether it be weapon or attire, the parasite will begin to rapidly feed upon its new source. A powerful technique, for every post that the Bakkoto remains in contact with its new source of food, 500 reiatsu will be stolen from them.
This reiatsu allows for two options by the Rogue. First, the Rogue is able to take that stolen Reiatsu and give it to themselves, replenishing their own reserves with their enemies. Many races and factions have tried to create techniques designed to steal the reiatsu of an enemy, but only the Rogues are capable of this. The second option is to convert the reiatsu into what a Rogue truly needs, into what allows the Rogue to continue fighting; Life Force. The main function of this technique is not to regain reiatsu, but is to in fact regain Life Force. When used against fellow Rogues, the user of this technique can rob Life Force rather than just reiatsu, same amount and can only be given to the users Life Force pool.
How to use technique (How is it activated?): The Rogue must have his Bakkoto come into contact with the targets body. This can be done by simply having the Bakkoto touch them, impale them upon the weapon that is the Bakkoto, or any other method of getting the parasite onto the target. They must then activate the technique.
Technique Drawbacks: This technique, despite its strength, does have a few drawbacks. Firstly, on the matter of draining reiatsu. If the stolen energy surpasses the amount that the Rogue has (SpPr stat), then the Rogue must use that reiatsu within two posts or the extra amount will deal sudden Life Force damage, equal to the extra unused amount of reiatsu. For every post that this technique is used, a Rogue will take 1.5x extra Life Drain depletion for attacks, except for any damage taken by too much reiatsu absorption. This technique has the cost of a Class 3 technique as well, and can only be used if it has been Mastered.
Made By: Garret the Wanderer
Reserved? (Yes/No): No
Technique Name: Hakai Gonzui
Class: 3
Technique Type: Other
Usable By: Arrancar
Technique Element: N/A
Technique Description and Effects: This is a completely physical type of Gonzui that one might argue is far less useful in devouring the reiatsu of others. While the standard Gonzui can be done on multiple targets at once and from a distance this technique can only be done directly and through physically eating a section of an entities body. This means that unless whoever is using this technique has multiple mouths it can only be done on a single entity at a time. The unique thing about the technique is that it can be done on the user as well by eating a part of their own body. This technique allows the user to gain reiatsu depending on how large the amount they have eaten. If they eat about a hand size they gain 100, hand to elbow 250, an entire arms worth is 350 wile eating someone completely is 500.
How to use technique: The user must take a physical bite out of an individual or themselves and then eat it.
Technique Drawbacks: The major limitation of this technique is that it can only be done on one individual at a time. The technique requires a 3 post cool down until it can be done again. Also this technique doesn't allow the user to overload their reiatsu meaning they can't gain more reiatsu then they originally have. Also this technique will cause incredible exhaustion if done any more then 5 times in a single thread. If someone keeps going and uses this technique a total of 8 they will pass out regardless of anything else. Finally devouring anything more then the size of a hand takes more time. (1 full post)
Technique Name: [Rape Mode]
Class: [1]
Technique Type: [Other]
Technique Element: [None]
Technique Description and Effects:
While this is active, what appears to be blue fire burns across the Akki's skin. This can be used by any Akki that is the correct class. This allows the Akki in question, upon physical contact with an enemy or ally, to siphon reiatsu and reiatsu strength from them. Every touch siphons 50 reiatsu and 10 reiatsu strength, adding them to the user's pool. However, prolonged contact has benefits. Every consecutive second of prolonged contact yields 100 reiatsu and 25 reiatsu strength to the user's pool. This can be used to exceed the user's maximum.
How to use technique:
Activate, which is costless, and then use by physical contact. This technique remains active for 7 posts before it deactivates. If excess reiatsu is not used up before then, the user dies.
Technique Drawbacks
Aside from the above drawback, this technique fills the user's soul with constant pain and self loathing. It is a technique whose activation tortures the user. This also causes reiatsu use to hurt as badly as any punishment from Hell would after a full day's accumulation, and causes cellular de-construction during its activation period, causing cells to begin to de-construct and die.
Made By: [Admin]
Alright onto the next question. This one I imagine is a far simpler question to answer. Why is Experienced not allowed on more races aside from Shinigami, Quincy, and Fullbringers? I can honestly see it working well for an Akki, Vizard, maybe even Saika's and Bount. I'll admit I AM a bit biased in asking this because I would like to use it (Though I understand it's not possible) for Anthony if he went Hollow wraith just given the personality of the inner hollow. But I'm also just curious given it's super limited to who can use it.
And on that note given I've already admitted to wanting that but realizing it's not possible. What other types would give a similar vibe as Experienced in terms of what it gives and the mindset behind it?
